Flight Trimming

Re: Flight Trimming

Postby mrsteven on Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:28 pm

Ya requiring us to make our own bearings from wood seems rather farfetched.
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby kjhsscioly on Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:22 pm

It doesn't say wood. You could theoretically make them from metal. But I think the purpose of the rule was mainly to prevent people from using commercially made stuff to get a perfect pitch matched on both sides.
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby mrsteven on Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:47 pm

kjhsscioly wrote:It doesn't say wood. You could theoretically make them from metal. But I think the purpose of the rule was mainly to prevent people from using commercially made stuff to get a perfect pitch matched on both sides.

ya thats true. I know teams that have gotten essentially pre-made kits that are online that are specific to SO saying 'SO legal.' I really dont like teams that use those because it's not in the spirit of the competition if someones giving you a mostly built one that all you do is attach prebuilt rotors to prebuilt motor stick.
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby chia on Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:56 pm

Well, it's not quite that simple to build a kit - then it wouldn't actually be "SO legal". I know what you mean, though... I built my first helicopter from a kit, and I'm really glad I managed to learn from it to build my newest one.
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby illusionist on Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:35 pm

Not to sound arrogant, but I've never built one from a kit. But I bought a kit for Wright Stuff last year, which taught me a lot toward building indoor duration models. Kit's do help, however students should take the experience and build their own helicopters.
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby mrsteven on Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:06 pm

illusionist wrote:Not to sound arrogant, but I've never built one from a kit. But I bought a kit for Wright Stuff last year, which taught me a lot toward building indoor duration models. Kit's do help, however students should take the experience and build their own helicopters.

nah thats not arrogant, this is my first year doing building events so Im learning as im going. I started out on a kit from the SO site (and no, not prebuilt lol) and now I designed my own that works reasonably well (idk how good until state to see me compared to others)
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby thewinner on Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:52 pm

I built my first helicopter from a kit. IMO, I think it's actually better to start with a kit, especially if you have no prior experience with indoor flight. First of all, building a kit teaches you how to work with balsa, which is arguably very important. Also, it teaches you the basic mechanics behind how the thing flies and basically protects you from the fail whale.
However, I dislike kits being used at competition. I think I said this in the Designs and Kits thread, but most of the medaling helicopters in NJ States were kits.
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby illusionist on Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:59 pm

Yup, I basically agree with everything above. I wish there was some way for Event Supervisors to know if it was a kit or custom-built....
BTW, what's a 'fail whale"? :oops:
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby mrsteven on Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:06 pm

illusionist wrote:Yup, I basically agree with everything above. I wish there was some way for Event Supervisors to know if it was a kit or custom-built....
BTW, what's a 'fail whale"? :oops:

^^ Agree, but I think you can use kits, just not ones that are basically entirely premade.
and fail whale? that was actually pretty epic
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby thewinner on Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:04 pm

I'm sorry. 'Fail whale' was unnecessary.
And I also wish supervisors knew whether a helicopter was built from a kit. I know that's excessive, since supervisors don't actually have a lot of time, but I can still dream, can't I? :lol:
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby mrsteven on Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:38 pm

haha yeah. So not to be a total hipocrat (well by asking I kinda am), is anyone willing to share heli times?
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby thewinner on Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:58 pm

My top times are around 2 minutes, give or take about ten seconds. My absolute best was 2:08 with a custom helicopter, but that was in a tennis place with a perfectly smooth, 50ft ceiling, and I doubt most people get that at competition. :lol:
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby lllazar on Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:01 am

We're testing tommorow and im estimating 2 minutes or so. Man i hope i medal.
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Re: Flight Trimming

Postby mrsteven on Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:11 am

lllazar wrote:We're testing tommorow and im estimating 2 minutes or so. Man i hope i medal.

Same. When this is all over we should talk, I kinda wanna know what team you're on and your design and stuff. You seem to be a good person to throw ideas off of
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