Fermi Questions Marathon

Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby samm547 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:00 pm

We assume an average height of 1750, 1500 of which are fillable feet, dimensions 15*1*1, and that Orangutans achieve maximum compression at the volume of a 3 ft by 2 ft by 2 ft cube.

That gives us total volume of 5*1.2E2^2*1500 ft = 6E4*1.5E3 = 9E7 ft^3, and 12 ft ^3 for orangutans gives 9E7/12 = 7.5E6 orangutans.

The extra credit question is bogus, he didn't specify African or European swallow.

How many digits are in the largest known prime, 2^43,112,609 - 1 ?
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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby quizbowl on Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:04 pm

samm547 wrote:We assume an average height of 1750, 1500 of which are fillable feet, dimensions 15*1*1, and that Orangutans achieve maximum compression at the volume of a 3 ft by 2 ft by 2 ft cube.

That gives us total volume of 5*1.2E2^2*1500 ft = 6E4*1.5E3 = 9E7 ft^3, and 12 ft ^3 for orangutans gives 9E7/12 = 7.5E6 orangutans.

The extra credit question is bogus, he didn't specify African or European swallow.

How many digits are in the largest known prime, 2^43,112,609 - 1 ?

2^10=10^3
Round 43,112,609 up a bit and divide by 10 and get 4,311,261 * 3 = 12933783.

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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby samm547 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:19 pm

quizbowl wrote:(e^(pi^(gamma^(phi))))


I assume my gamma you mean the E-M one,

We fill in approximate values, 2.7^3.1^0.58^1.6

estimate 0.58^1.6 = 0.45 because 0.6^2 0.36 and 0.6^1 = 0.6

3.1^0.45 ~ sqrt(pi) = 1.77 (memorized for probability theory), rounding down I'll take 1.6

2.7^1.6 is going to be slightly larger than 2.5^1.5 and sqrt(2.5) ~ 1.6 so I am going to say 5E0
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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby samm547 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:33 pm

If we build a data storage device that was the size of the moon, with our present maximum storage capacity density, how many seconds of 1080p video could it hold?
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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby Schrodingerscat on Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:42 pm

samm547 wrote:If we build a data storage device that was the size of the moon, with our present maximum storage capacity density, how many seconds of 1080p video could it hold?


I will guess that a hard drive would be a better indicator of data density than a flash drive. I believe the best hard drives have a current capacity of around 10^13 bytes (10 terrabytes) and are probably 5x5x2 or 50cm^3 Thus you can store 0.5E12 or 5*10^11 bytes in one centimeter. Actually, I will round that up to a terrabyte per cubic centimeter, as even hard drives have considerable infrastructure. That would be 10^18/cubic meter or 10^24 bytes per cubic kilometer. The earth has a radius of 6000km, and I know the moon is a fraction, so I will guess about 2000km, thus it has a volume of 4*8*10^9 km^3 or 2*10^10 cubic kilometers. Therefore I will assume the moon can hold 10^34 bytes of data I am not completely sure about how much data per second 1080 is, but I will guess 10mb/s or 10^7/s, so thus the moon can hold 10^27 seconds of video.

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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby samm547 on Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:13 pm

Schrodingerscat wrote:If cars were to run on the ink out of printer cartridges with the same "ink efficiency" as gas efficiency, how much would you spend on ink to drive from Dallas, TX to Chicago, IL?


Assumptions: Car gets 20mpg, Dallas to Chicago is 2E3 miles, Ink cartrige is 20 ml and costs 25$, 2L is 1 gallon

Then it is simple multiplication and division, giving 2E3/20*2*1000/20*25 = 2.5E5

What is the 1,000,000th prime number? (This was on my regional test) If stuck, use prime number theorem.
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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby quizbowl on Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:23 pm

samm547 wrote:
Schrodingerscat wrote:If cars were to run on the ink out of printer cartridges with the same "ink efficiency" as gas efficiency, how much would you spend on ink to drive from Dallas, TX to Chicago, IL?


Assumptions: Car gets 20mpg, Dallas to Chicago is 2E3 miles, Ink cartrige is 20 ml and costs 25$, 2L is 1 gallon

Then it is simple multiplication and division, giving 2E3/20*2*1000/20*25 = 2.5E5

What is the 1,000,000th prime number? (This was on my regional test) If stuck, use prime number theorem.

Okay, this is going to be a stream-of-consciousness problem.
good god, this sounds difficult. not really sure how to approach this mathematically. Well I remember that in the first 100 numbers, 25 or so are prime. so that's about 1/4th, right? but i feel like as you go up it'll get lower, like maybe 1/8th or so. Let's say around 1/8th then. So one million primes, wow that's a lot of primes. holy cow that's huge hehe. uhm so really going by that ratio by the 8 millionth number we should have about the lucky number somewhere by then. So I'd say 7? [/stream]

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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby Schrodingerscat on Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:05 pm

I believe there are a billion galaxies averaging 1 trillion stars each, so will go with 10^21 stars, each weighing about 10^30 kg, so 10^51 kg.
The universe has a radius of I believe around 5*10^10 lys, so 100*10^30 or 10^33 cubic light years.
so thus the density is 10^18 kg/ly^3. Fermi answer 18.

What is the cost of a kilogram of Silver nitrate?
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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby quizbowl on Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:46 am

Schrodingerscat wrote:What is the cost of a kilogram of Silver nitrate?

Ok, so silver nitrate itself is a bit expensive. I flipped through Ward's a few weeks ago and I remember that like 25 grams was about E2 dollars or so. I think. So multiply by 4E1 and you get E3 dollars (whoa, expensive!)

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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby Phenylethylamine on Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:50 am

samm547 wrote:
Schrodingerscat wrote:If cars were to run on the ink out of printer cartridges with the same "ink efficiency" as gas efficiency, how much would you spend on ink to drive from Dallas, TX to Chicago, IL?


Assumptions: Car gets 20mpg, Dallas to Chicago is 2E3 miles, Ink cartrige is 20 ml and costs 25$, 2L is 1 gallon

Then it is simple multiplication and division, giving 2E3/20*2*1000/20*25 = 2.5E5

Just for the record, a gallon is actually about 4L, so your answer should be 5E5, and therefore 6 rather than 5.
Schrodingerscat wrote:What is the cost of a kilogram of Silver nitrate?

Molecular weight of silver is about 100, nitrate is 14 + 3(16) = 60ish (both slightly low), so silver nitrate is 5/8 silver by mass; let's say the cost of silver nitrate is determined entirely by the cost of the silver it contains, so you have 5/8 kilo of silver, or 6.25E-1 kg; silver is roughly $30/oz, one ounce is 28g or 2.8E-2 kg:

6.25E-1/2.8E-2 = 2.25E1; 2.25E1*3E1 = 7E2; so 3.

Edit: oops, I was too slow; someone else already answered...
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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby samm547 on Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:30 pm

In response to the 1,000,000th prime number, the mathematical answer uses the prime number theorem: The number of primes less than n asymptotically approaches n/ln(n), which can be manipulated to show that the nth prime number is approximately n*ln(n) or 1E6*ln(1E6) = 6E6*ln(10)~ 3E7, so 7.
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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby anepictimelord on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:38 pm

hers one from our reginals: a pancake is baked that is big enough to cover the surface of the earth. a)how many eggs are required? b) this pancake is shared equally by the population of Michigan, how many calories does each person consume? C) how much weight (in pounds) is gained by each person?
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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby hmcginny on Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:46 pm

so the surface area of the earth is E14 square meters, each single egg will probably produce a pancake that is a circle with a radius around 10 cm, so 3E-2 square meters, so you will need 3E16 eggs so 16. Then the population of Michigan is probably around 10 million, definitely E7. Each standard sized pancake, of which you will make E16, will contain around 1E2 calories so E18 calories over E7 people, E11 calories each. So each pancake probably weighs around 1E2 g, so there are 3E18 g of pancakes to eat, so each person consumes 3E11 of these grams, or 3E8 kg or 6E8 lb which would make the answer 9.

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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby A123456789 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:46 pm

I live in Michigan.
Michigan is probably about 3% of the United States's landmass, and the United States is probably around 5%-8% of the world's landmass, so the answer is -3.

What fraction of a human's mass is DNA?
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Re: Fermi Questions Marathon

Postby Phenylethylamine on Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:18 pm

A123456789 wrote:I live in Michigan.
Michigan is probably about 3% of the United States's landmass, and the United States is probably around 5%-8% of the world's landmass, so the answer is -3.

What fraction of a human's mass is DNA?
A human is about 70 kg, and we have... tens of grams? hundreds of grams? worth of DNA, so -3.

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