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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby GCXC on Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:40 pm

anyone understand how this could be a lab unless they consider using the computer to build the onsite model as a lab then im not sure it belongs here
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby zyzzyva98 on Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:10 pm

Well, (A) Compute This is a lab event and that uses a computer and (B) Don't you also have to build an on-site model by hand? I haven't really read the draft rules yet.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby GCXC on Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:54 pm

i really want to know what the protein is for this year!!!!
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby quizbowl on Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:35 pm

soinc.org wrote:For 2011, students will model proteins involved in reprogramming adult cells to become stem cells
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby Phenylethylamine on Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:42 am

GCXC wrote:anyone understand how this could be a lab unless they consider using the computer to build the onsite model as a lab then im not sure it belongs here

zyzzyva98 wrote:Well, (A) Compute This is a lab event and that uses a computer and (B) Don't you also have to build an on-site model by hand? I haven't really read the draft rules yet.

Yes, the onsite model is built by hand, and I think it's fair to call this a lab event, since only 30% of your score is determined by the test portion (assuming that the scoring remains the same as last year's trial event rules, which normally wouldn't be certain, but given that the rules- as well as the tests- were written by the people at the Center for Biomolecular Modeling at MSOE, I don't think they'll change that much).
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soinc.org wrote:For 2011, students will model proteins involved in reprogramming adult cells to become stem cells

Where on soinc.org did you find this? I couldn't find any information about it.
EDIT: Never mind, I found it (if anyone else is looking for it, it's under Event Info -> Short Event Descriptions).
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby GCXC on Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:57 pm

quizbowl13 wrote:
soinc.org wrote:For 2011, students will model proteins involved in reprogramming adult cells to become stem cells


i am really curious to know what kind of protein we will get this year with that kind of short description :mrgreen: i cant wait official rules should be coming soon :!: :!: :!:
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby Flavorflav on Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:35 pm

The protein is Klf4.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby Phenylethylamine on Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:48 pm

Flavorflav wrote:The protein is Klf4.

Thank you. I assume this means you have the rulebook already, since the MSOE SciO page still lists the 2009-10 information.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby GCXC on Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:23 pm

Flavorflav wrote:The protein is Klf4.

the entire protein and this doesnt seem as dramatic as h1n1 was but we shall see
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby Flavorflav on Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:49 pm

Yes, it seems to be the entire protein. The build onsite will be a section of Oct4 for regionals, NANOG for states.

ETA Yes, I have the rulebook.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby EpiMicroVirus on Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:29 pm

So there is three parts?
You build a model to bring to the competition, construct a model on site, and a take a test?
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby AlphaTauri on Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:28 pm

EpiMicroVirus wrote:So there is three parts?
You build a model to bring to the competition, construct a model on site, and a take a test?
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby tmanneo on Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:13 pm

How do you figure out which amino acids are used and in what sequence?
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby GCXC on Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:06 pm

which residues do they want 397-483 or do they want all 89?
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